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| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 18:20:15
since we no longer have the catagory of "View all 1st Place Highscores" under a players history, doesnt really warrant the cost of a Ring Of Smoke.
My questions are, will the ring of smoke cost be lowered, and if so by how much?
Will those who paid full price, be given back the difference?
And WHY has this catagory been removed?
Is it because people are complaining? And if so, WHY, and WHAT are the valid reasons for this change?
I know we can still view a players history of the last games they played etc, however, paying for the ring of smoke in the first place was to protect a players highscore history. Without it being there as a catagory now, seems pointless in even having it.
With that in mind, whats the REAL point of paying for a Ring Of Smoke? |
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| haplo |
Posted - 04/01/2012 : 00:30:12
1st place scores lists on history page has been restored.
3 new updates released to start off a new week, see the News forum. (actually I released them JUST before midnight so people would get the 1000 gold for the leaderboard)
Thanks to everyone who has defended my honor and my sanity :) I appreciate all your support guys, although I do listen to what people say I also take everything with a grain of salt, after a few years of getting complaints, insults, profanity, and more I've gotten a thick skin :). I hear what people say and sometimes consider changing things, but I never let it get to me. And a lot of times I completely ignore people, LOL. But, in all fairness, I do have to say that Rock hasn't been a bother to me at all for the last I don't know how long. Pretty much the only time he messages me is when there's a serious problem with the site, like something is broken or whatnot. So don't dog him too much, he's been playing nice :) Actually right now there's another player that's being a bit of a thorn in my side... Good thing I implemented the ignore function because in the last month more than 1 person has asked about how to stop people from messaging them lol. That guy's got a foul mouth lol.
In any case, keep your spirits up toast I know it gets hard for you sometimes too but you're supposed to be the happy-go-lucky one around here, so it's rather out of character for you to be stressed hehe :) Thanks mel for being a reality check for people around here, and thanks rock for keeping it real and being so diligent about reporting issues to me. I appreciate all you guys, you're wonderful
Hope you like the new updates :) As always, they're just experiments and subject to change :P Give me feedback on whether you like them or not, I'll start a new thread in this forum for you to tell me your thoughts if you are so inclined :) And if not that's cool too :) |
| melglora |
Posted - 04/01/2012 : 00:01:13
Agreed, each game is designed for competing right, it's the entire point isn't it? Otherwise things would be VERY BORING. |
| haplo |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 23:50:37
Uhhhhh.... chill guys.
Rock hasn't messaged me at all about this issue. As far as I know he doesn't care one way or the other. The complaints were not from him, it was from a couple other people.
Regardless, who cares?
(by the way, I'm gonna put the 1st place scores list back on the history page)
Also releasing several other updates in the next few minutes before midnight and a new week starts. Keep an eye out for them! (but if you wanna talk about them, start a new thread don't do it in this one) |
| rockcastlecoky |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 23:43:47
Toast...if I make Haplo uncomfortable (as YOU stated above), let Haplo tell me...not you. It is Haplo's site and I accept any changes he makes. |
| rockcastlecoky |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 23:37:07
Toast...what have I messaged and / or complained to Haplo about? I admit it. I have e-mailed Haplo twice in the past 2 days about a site problem. Your name was never brought up by either of us. In fact, those e-mails were before I even saw this on the forum.
The list that I am using now was Haplo's list of the new Christmas games...in the same order that it was posted here. I am almost finished with that list. When I finish with that list, I will go back to my original list...the lists that I started with...the games I rated at 5, the games I rated at 6, the games I rated at 7...all the way up to 10.
I am not complaining. Beat my challenges. It doesn't matter to me. I get my 20 Gold for submitting the games and I'm happy. Win or lose the challenge, I'm still happy with the 20 Gold for submitting the game challenge. |
| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 22:51:16
Yeah, no I gathered that Toast. |
| rockcastlecoky |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 22:45:53
First thing. The game i have been submitting for Player's Challenges come from my personal lists. The list I am using now came directly from this forum as it was posted here by Haplo. In the exact same order as Haplo posted it.. The last game I submitted was [Stoneage Santa] . So the next game that I submit "should" be [Sumo Snowmen] . That is "if" I score high enough to submit it. It doesn't matter if you have scored first place or last place, Toast. Just follow the same list that I use. It was posted here by Haplo. Just submit the next games on that list yourself and beat me to submitting them.
I don't admit to being any great player. I never have and I never will. Just look at my scores for my own Player's Challenges. I have told Melglora this and I will now tell this to you Toast. I don't submit games to Player's Challenge to get the Gold. I ONLY submit the games to get the Gold for submitting the game. Nothing more. So I get the 20 Gold for submitting the game and I'm satisfied with that small amount.
I have also told you Toast (quite some time ago) that I keep lists of games to rate and e-mail. I rate games according to how I scored. The higher I score, the higher I rate the game.
I just call it being organized, rather than looking all over the site for a game that I haven't yet rated or e-mailed. |
| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 22:40:14
I'm on the edge of my seat. |
| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:43:01
The simple tally of 1st place games creates enough problems. |
| rockcastlecoky |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:34:35
My point of view? It's good to have achievements, awards, etc. But I really don't see the point of listing the specifics of what those achievements and awards are for. I think it's great that Toast has 1300 first place scores. That should be noted as Toast's accomplishment. But I really don't see the need to list the specific games. Simply say a player has "x" amount of first place scores and forget the game listing. |
| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:30:24
There are already countless things a person can achieve on this site if they are bad at games.
Why expect any more than what can already be achieved here, if you're bad at GAMES on a GAMES site. Why get angry that you can't reach people's stats when you don't have the ability?
I'm not going to break an athlete's legs just so I can say that I can keep up.
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| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:23:43
I've even stood back on certain leadership awards, tourneys and daily challenges and alike, for quite some time now.
i could -easily- go for them at times, but i havent, in order to allow others a chance. ive been quite laid back about it. But i wont get any credit for it will i lol.
Same as i dont think Lynnette should be penalised for holding the top spot on weeklys and dailys (tournaments). Although Mel is doing an amazing job catching up, in the short time its taken!
Players need to rethink, and come up with a real and fair resolve for all, rather than complaining over specific members. Its all about being patient. Things -Will- change over time. Changes happen progressively as players mature with their skills, and graduate further up the rankings etc.
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| rockcastlecoky |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:22:49
quote:
Originally posted by toast
most players all make lists of other players first place games anyway, i.e. Mr Rock hehe, and a few others (myself included), however, surely the entire point of purchasing the ring of smoke, was to protect their scores?
My dear Toast. Since my name was mentioned here, I feel I must respond in my own defence. Yes, I admit that I make lists. Numerous lists in multiple places. I have lists of EVERY game that I have EVER played here on PIOTW and how well (or bad) I played it. These multiple lists are of my OWN achievements, never the achievements of others. For instance, if I score in the top 50% I'll note that in a seperate folder so that I can come back later and use that same game in a Player's Challenge.
It is none of my concern if you or someone else has a first place score. That's your achievement. Your achievements are your business and therefore do not go onto my lists. |
| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 21:10:10
It's hardly an issue if people complain about something that changes every month anyway.
If this is such an issue perhaps there should be more features put in place on the site for the not-so-good players, similar to the tournament ranking.
How about a kids section with baby games and easy goals, that if your stats are too high, you can't compete. |
| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 20:50:59
thanks mel. but people -will- still complain, even if the rotation is a good thing, people here will still moan, if it doesnt work out for them.
people also have to accept that this site is expanding, attracting more great players, etc, and that there will -always- be people better than the lower end of calibre of player, including myself.
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| melglora |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 20:26:36
Since I've sold my ring of smoke before reading this post, considering it useless, I personally won't be buying one again. Hiding the high scores isn't worth it to me in the end anyway, if they're put back, (try and take them peoples :P) and so I'd just be spending money on hiding some great stats essentially, just to hide scores that people find hard to take anyway.
This idea, Toast, about showing 1st place high scores within a period of time, is brilliant. This has gotten out of hand, the first place high scores lists should be completely abolished and make it a temporary list. Take it off the player's profile pages, everything, it's more trouble than it's worth. It should be replaced by "1st place high scores achieved this month".
If there's no list, if there's no top ten, there's no problem. There's no complaining, there's no worrying about ANY of this, new players, old, crap, good, whatever.
It will be just as fun and rewarding, or MORE fun, to compete for it each month. Well done Toast.
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| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 19:57:34
***1300 not 13,000 sorry! expresso! |
| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 19:55:18
Ahhh, but u see, im ALL for a level playing field! i WANT everyone to achieve -something-!
I already achieved what i set out to do, i had over 13,000 first place highscores, im a ledgend in my own right for achieveing that, i dont need a "top players" list confirm it.
(i printed screen, and saved it for my own viewing leisure instead) =P
Maybe work out a quarterly rotary ratio, on a scale of wich player has got the most high scores that quarter, and rotate them accordingly.
Then no one can fret and vex the issue anymore. |
| haplo |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 19:39:46
So you think it's a good thing that it's difficult for excellent players to hold onto their 1st place scores? Because of the list of their 1st place scores on their history page (unless they have the ROS)
Hmmm maybe I agree with you.
Actually YOU were one of the ones that kind of made this an issue for me, because I know you have been losing a lot of your scores lately. Of course, you have the ROS but I was thinking other people might be in your situation and not have it. I'm very surprised to hear you arguing for the opposite of what I thought you would!
This is very educating for me... |
| toast |
Posted - 03/31/2012 : 19:36:22
yes, put the 1st place catagory back to how it was, making the ROS worth while to purchase.
tell the people who are complaining, to be a tad more diplomatic before complaining to u, and -if- theres a REAL need to complain, (i.e. proof of cheating etc) then they have valid reason.
And maybe "rotate" thetop spots. every quarter, (3months or so). by way of giving the top spot to those whove achieved the "most" highscores within that period of time.
food for thought. that way, no one is penalised, its all about the hard work and effort people give, rather than the stagnent situation it is now. No one can complain then, can they....but they will lol |
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